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Why America Needs 1,000+ States

On this episode of Radio Rothbard, Ryan McMaken and Tho Bishop call for breaking up the US into smaller states. While this idea sounds radical to some, there has been growing conversation about shifting state borders, including proposals to break up California and a recent vote on the Greater Idaho project. Ryan and Tho discuss what lessons the Swiss model of federalism, as well as consider the cynical political considerations of this humble proposal. 

Recommended Reading

“If American Federalism Were like Swiss Federalism, There Would be 1,300 States” by Ryan McMaken:

“The Borders Between US States Are Obsolete” by Ryan McMaken:

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